User talk:Gill smoke

Infinite Dvorak

Please remember the following rule for adding cards:

• Cards shouldn't refer to other cards. Remember that the deck is infinite! Cards should avoid making any specific references to other cards or mechanics, because they might never see those specific cards during play, particularly if you think of the deck as infinite. You should word your mechanics as generically as possible - a fishing rod card that said "gain control of a fish" would be useless in a game where no fish cards came up, whereas one that said "gain control of a living Thing" would probably see some use in any game that it got drawn in.

(A good test is to open a random archive page of the Infinite Dvorak Deck, and see how many of its cards your new card could apply to. If there are only one or two cards that you could play it on, then you should probably word it more generically.)

It's important that you follow it. Your Sacrificial Table and Zombie General cards are in violation of this rule. Pongo 10:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Sacrificial Table is fine as a generic token generator, but yes, Zombie General is going to be unusable in pretty much every single game it gets drawn in. --Kevan 11:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

For it's Action ability yes almost always useless. It would still count as a thing in play. What do you expect from a Zombie General, greatness? No they are usually useless. Now Vampire Generals are usually useful except in sunlight. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gill smoke (talk • contribs).

You seem to be ingnoring the fact that the deck is absolutely enormous. If you play with the entire deck, the chances of Zombie General and Sacrificial Altar (the card which Zombie General relies on to use its action ability) coming up in the same game are extremely small. If one appears but not the other, that card will be useless. The action abilities of cards should have reasonable conditions for their use. Zombie General's action ability relies on Sacrificial Altar being in play for a reasonable amount of time. As I have said, it is extremely unlikely that Zombie General and Sacrificial Altar will both appear in the same game, therefore making Zombie General's action ability almost useless. --Pongo 13:01, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Exactly. "It's a Zombie." That's the point. I can keep making Zombie cards. might be better than the permission cards and physical performance cards. --gill_smoke

So are you saying the action ability is intentionally useless? I'm afraid I can't understand you terribly well. Are you a native speaker of English? --Pongo 13:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I created the intentionally useless action ability. Yes, I am a native speaker of English, College educated as well. Once again Zombies are in a general sense useless, that is the point. The card played with the other 1300 or so would be of use very infrequently, but would count as a Thing in play. --gill_smoke

Thanks. --Pongo 09:21, 5 January 2008 (UTC)